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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-532</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lora,

Yeah, Crossfire Canyon is not the canyon&#039;s real name.  I dubbed it that because of the controversy over the BLM&#039;s September 2007 closing of its trail to off-road vehicles, an act that caused OHV enthusiasts to fire off letters to the editor and otherwise go on the defensive.

Coyote Way is one of the trails into Crossfire.  In April, I gave it that name to remember the dead coyote that was dumped at the trailhead. You can read about that christening here:

http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-3/

Here&#039;s a post where I write about finding the carcass:

http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/degrees-of-coyoteness/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lora,</p>
<p>Yeah, Crossfire Canyon is not the canyon&#8217;s real name.  I dubbed it that because of the controversy over the BLM&#8217;s September 2007 closing of its trail to off-road vehicles, an act that caused OHV enthusiasts to fire off letters to the editor and otherwise go on the defensive.</p>
<p>Coyote Way is one of the trails into Crossfire.  In April, I gave it that name to remember the dead coyote that was dumped at the trailhead. You can read about that christening here:</p>
<p><a href="http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-3/" rel="nofollow">http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-3/</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a post where I write about finding the carcass:</p>
<p><a href="http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/degrees-of-coyoteness/" rel="nofollow">http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/degrees-of-coyoteness/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-531</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify: my question about places was for Patricia&#039;s opening line of her post. But I also gained a lot from Greenfrog&#039;s comment, I was thinking it was poetic and then Patricia broke it up into a poem. It also reminds me of the lists in the scriptures, more like Genesis, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify: my question about places was for Patricia&#8217;s opening line of her post. But I also gained a lot from Greenfrog&#8217;s comment, I was thinking it was poetic and then Patricia broke it up into a poem. It also reminds me of the lists in the scriptures, more like Genesis, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the first sentence, are those all your own names for the places you go to? Because just in reading the first sentence, I had an entire story unfolded to me as it brought to mind many things you&#039;d already said about the place. It reminded me of the beginning of the New Testament, and strongly, too! The long list of begats was once explained as a way to remind the reader of the entire history of the Old Testament before he plunged into the New one, the sequel so to speak. You did it just like that, at least for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the first sentence, are those all your own names for the places you go to? Because just in reading the first sentence, I had an entire story unfolded to me as it brought to mind many things you&#8217;d already said about the place. It reminded me of the beginning of the New Testament, and strongly, too! The long list of begats was once explained as a way to remind the reader of the entire history of the Old Testament before he plunged into the New one, the sequel so to speak. You did it just like that, at least for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also when you line it out that way, it makes me want to monkey with it more.&lt;/i&gt;

Can frogs &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; the Monkey? ;-)

Go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also when you line it out that way, it makes me want to monkey with it more.</i></p>
<p>Can frogs <i>do</i> the Monkey? ;-)</p>
<p>Go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfrog</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;By “content” do you mean “substance in and of itself”?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, or &quot;meaning.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;As opposed to “medium,” an environment of transmission or wherein something is exchanged, conveyed, transformed?&lt;/i&gt;

Yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>By “content” do you mean “substance in and of itself”?</i></p>
<p>Yes, or &#8220;meaning.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>As opposed to “medium,” an environment of transmission or wherein something is exchanged, conveyed, transformed?</i></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfrog</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  Hadn&#039;t occurred to me.

The great thing about being able to hide my own Easter eggs is that I got all the way to the juniper needles before I recognized the text.

Also when you line it out that way, it makes me want to monkey with it more.

Primate behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Hadn&#8217;t occurred to me.</p>
<p>The great thing about being able to hide my own Easter eggs is that I got all the way to the juniper needles before I recognized the text.</p>
<p>Also when you line it out that way, it makes me want to monkey with it more.</p>
<p>Primate behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>greenfrog, about your last question.

In the past, you&#039;ve asked about the efficacy of poetry over prose where engaging consciousness is concerned.  Check this out:

Is there a way to teach 
and understand 
that it isn’t about conscience 
or moral codes 
or legal treatises, 
but about being integrally,
inhaling the oxygen exhaled 
by the juniper needles, 
exhaling humidified carbon dioxide 
that the scrub oaks will take up 
to build acorns for the ravens 
that will clean up the coyote 
carcass on the fence 
and with it build nests 
and chicks 
and caw their music into 
the open spaces 
above the canyons, 
giving a vibratory shape
to the upwelling columns of air 
that lift the red-tailed hawks 
with bellies full of mice
whose proteins they’ll convert into 
nitrogen-rich droppings that seep
down the cliff face 
and fertilize the white columbines 
growing from the seeps 
at the limed seam 
running through the sandstone into tiny
springs that channel 
the monsoon drainage 
to the hanging gardens 
where the hummingbirds, 
on their way from Mexico 
and headed to the Canadian high country — 
pause to sip, confuse the dragonflies, 
and buzz on northward?

I haven&#039;t broken the lines as you would, it can be done a dozen or more ways, I&#039;m just showing something of what I see.

My answer to the question: apparently so.  Though learning does not occur solely within the process of being taught.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>greenfrog, about your last question.</p>
<p>In the past, you&#8217;ve asked about the efficacy of poetry over prose where engaging consciousness is concerned.  Check this out:</p>
<p>Is there a way to teach<br />
and understand<br />
that it isn’t about conscience<br />
or moral codes<br />
or legal treatises,<br />
but about being integrally,<br />
inhaling the oxygen exhaled<br />
by the juniper needles,<br />
exhaling humidified carbon dioxide<br />
that the scrub oaks will take up<br />
to build acorns for the ravens<br />
that will clean up the coyote<br />
carcass on the fence<br />
and with it build nests<br />
and chicks<br />
and caw their music into<br />
the open spaces<br />
above the canyons,<br />
giving a vibratory shape<br />
to the upwelling columns of air<br />
that lift the red-tailed hawks<br />
with bellies full of mice<br />
whose proteins they’ll convert into<br />
nitrogen-rich droppings that seep<br />
down the cliff face<br />
and fertilize the white columbines<br />
growing from the seeps<br />
at the limed seam<br />
running through the sandstone into tiny<br />
springs that channel<br />
the monsoon drainage<br />
to the hanging gardens<br />
where the hummingbirds,<br />
on their way from Mexico<br />
and headed to the Canadian high country —<br />
pause to sip, confuse the dragonflies,<br />
and buzz on northward?</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t broken the lines as you would, it can be done a dozen or more ways, I&#8217;m just showing something of what I see.</p>
<p>My answer to the question: apparently so.  Though learning does not occur solely within the process of being taught.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Agitators protect your feet from the threatening contact with earth. How much more dangerous to offer the skin of your soles to her?&lt;/i&gt;

The agitators don&#039;t protect my feet from the threatening contact with earth so much as they help prevent the threatening full-body contact that would occur with a fall, especially given some of the places I find myself in.

I&#039;m having to re-teach myself much.

I do often go into the garden bare-soled to the soil, and that feels satisfying, both to me and to the ground.  Also, barefoot = less threat to the toads, especially after dark, when I&#039;m most likely to be out watering my vegetable love.

&lt;i&gt;Does awareness have content? Your notes seem to suggest it does. Sometimes I think it does, and sometimes I think it’s medium. And sometimes I think it’s medium and clear sight enables alignment with reality. Is that the same as awareness having content?&lt;/i&gt;

By &quot;content&quot; do you mean &quot;substance in and of itself&quot;?  As opposed to &quot;medium,&quot; an environment of transmission or wherein something is exchanged, conveyed, transformed?  

At this point, I think awareness equivalent to consciousness.  I wanted to avoid using the words &quot;conscious&quot; or &quot;consciousness&quot; in proximity to &quot;conscience,&quot; supposing that the closeness of the two in letter and sound might weary readers.

To answer your questions, I don&#039;t know.  I&#039;m not even sure yet if through clear sight we align our cognition with reality or if we somehow create it.  That is to say, there&#039;s something about seeing clearly that changes what&#039;s seen, something about being more that changes what is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Agitators protect your feet from the threatening contact with earth. How much more dangerous to offer the skin of your soles to her?</i></p>
<p>The agitators don&#8217;t protect my feet from the threatening contact with earth so much as they help prevent the threatening full-body contact that would occur with a fall, especially given some of the places I find myself in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having to re-teach myself much.</p>
<p>I do often go into the garden bare-soled to the soil, and that feels satisfying, both to me and to the ground.  Also, barefoot = less threat to the toads, especially after dark, when I&#8217;m most likely to be out watering my vegetable love.</p>
<p><i>Does awareness have content? Your notes seem to suggest it does. Sometimes I think it does, and sometimes I think it’s medium. And sometimes I think it’s medium and clear sight enables alignment with reality. Is that the same as awareness having content?</i></p>
<p>By &#8220;content&#8221; do you mean &#8220;substance in and of itself&#8221;?  As opposed to &#8220;medium,&#8221; an environment of transmission or wherein something is exchanged, conveyed, transformed?  </p>
<p>At this point, I think awareness equivalent to consciousness.  I wanted to avoid using the words &#8220;conscious&#8221; or &#8220;consciousness&#8221; in proximity to &#8220;conscience,&#8221; supposing that the closeness of the two in letter and sound might weary readers.</p>
<p>To answer your questions, I don&#8217;t know.  I&#8217;m not even sure yet if through clear sight we align our cognition with reality or if we somehow create it.  That is to say, there&#8217;s something about seeing clearly that changes what&#8217;s seen, something about being more that changes what is.</p>
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		<title>By: greenfrog</title>
		<link>http://wilderness.motleyvision.org/2009/field-notes-6/comment-page-1/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>greenfrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots to think about here.  

Disparate thoughts:

Agitators protect your feet from the threatening contact with earth.  How much more dangerous to offer the skin of your soles to her?

Does awareness have content?  Your notes seem to suggest it does.  Sometimes I think it does, and sometimes I think it&#039;s medium.  And sometimes I think it&#039;s medium and clear sight enables alignment with reality.  Is that the same as awareness having content?  I&#039;m not sure yet, but I&#039;ve a ways in yet to go.  I&#039;m hoping for a clearer vantage point.

Is there a way to teach and understand that it isn&#039;t about conscience or moral codes or legal treatises, but about being integrally, inhaling the oxygen exhaled by the juniper needles, exhaling humidified carbon dioxide that the scrub oaks will take up to build acorns for the ravens that will clean up the coyote carcass on the fence and with it build nests and chicks and caw their music into the open spaces above the canyons, giving a vibratory shape to the upwelling columns of air that lift the red-tailed hawks with bellies full of mice whose proteins they&#039;ll convert into nitrogen-rich droppings that seep down the cliff face and fertilize the white columbines growing from the seeps at the limed seam running through the sandstone into tiny springs that channel the monsoon drainage to the hanging gardens where the hummingbirds, on their way from Mexico and headed to the Canadian high country -- pause to sip, confuse the dragonflies, and buzz on northward?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots to think about here.  </p>
<p>Disparate thoughts:</p>
<p>Agitators protect your feet from the threatening contact with earth.  How much more dangerous to offer the skin of your soles to her?</p>
<p>Does awareness have content?  Your notes seem to suggest it does.  Sometimes I think it does, and sometimes I think it&#8217;s medium.  And sometimes I think it&#8217;s medium and clear sight enables alignment with reality.  Is that the same as awareness having content?  I&#8217;m not sure yet, but I&#8217;ve a ways in yet to go.  I&#8217;m hoping for a clearer vantage point.</p>
<p>Is there a way to teach and understand that it isn&#8217;t about conscience or moral codes or legal treatises, but about being integrally, inhaling the oxygen exhaled by the juniper needles, exhaling humidified carbon dioxide that the scrub oaks will take up to build acorns for the ravens that will clean up the coyote carcass on the fence and with it build nests and chicks and caw their music into the open spaces above the canyons, giving a vibratory shape to the upwelling columns of air that lift the red-tailed hawks with bellies full of mice whose proteins they&#8217;ll convert into nitrogen-rich droppings that seep down the cliff face and fertilize the white columbines growing from the seeps at the limed seam running through the sandstone into tiny springs that channel the monsoon drainage to the hanging gardens where the hummingbirds, on their way from Mexico and headed to the Canadian high country &#8212; pause to sip, confuse the dragonflies, and buzz on northward?</p>
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